Jnag406
Esperamos que pases buenos momentos en Wikipedia. --Jbmurray (discusión) 22:58 6 ene 2015 (UTC)
Hola Jennifer!
editarNo I think you did it correctly...I got your message on my discussion page. Don't worry, I am confused at times too. It's a good way to practice how this works and so far, I think everything that you have done is perfect :)--Annaqiu (discusión) 03:52 24 ene 2015 (UTC)
- Yup, you're both doing great! NB, when it comes to discussions on talkpages there are two schools of thought: one, that you always write on the other person's talkpage; and the other, that you continue the conversation at the same place that it started. I rather prefer the second way of doing things, which makes most sense to me. In which case, Annaqiu would have responded to Jnag406's comment on her own talkpage. But whatever works for you guys. --Jbmurray (discusión) 04:53 24 ene 2015 (UTC)
The second option does make the most sense, but now I am just confused if Anna will see this message. (This is a test) Anna - are you there? If so we need to figure out how to add Roza on here too! I suppose if you have ticked 'Vigilar esta pagina' you will get an email about this message. What a learning curve, but all very neat.--Jnag406 (discusión) 05:33 24 ene 2015 (UTC)
- I've dropped RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) a note. And yes, Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) should see the activity on her watchlist if, as you point out, she's watching this page. Another option is to "ping" her, as I've just done, by using the {{u}} template: you write {{u|username}} and a notification gets sent to that user. Like this: Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.). --Jbmurray (discusión) 05:43 24 ene 2015 (UTC)
- I am realizing all of this must be in the "Referencia Rapida" that you left for us to check out Jbmurray (disc. · contr. · bloq.). I will go and peruse that out now so I don't keep asking obvious questions. Also, Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) the outline looks great! Go team. Were we also having a 'carrera' section where we split it into her literary career and her other occupations (such as her work with the Radio station etc.)? Or was that a subsection? I forget what we decided. Feel free to dump your references in whenever. I will have time tomorrow to format them.
- Yes! I will add that in as well. I was just playing with the format and editing my outline - I wasn't able to add everything because my Tablet was on low battery. But I will have the references in now since my Tablet is recharged.--Annaqiu (discusión) 07:37 24 ene 2015 (UTC)
Hey guys, I'm here!! I've finally figured it out. I am clearly no technological genius! Both of your work looks great! I've added my Evaluation, tell me what you think. I did just a general and short comparison which I thought was the idea. But if you think I should go more in depth, or format it differently don't be scared to tell me! I can totally do that in the morning. Just give me a shout! I'm also going to put up the link for my 5 references for Jen right now. Let me know if they are ok. I think a few of them you may have to log into the UBC library. --RvL406 (discusión) 08:11 24 ene 2015 (UTC)
Hey Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.). I put up my links, they look totally unorganized but since you are formatting them I thought it was a waste of time to make them look pretty! I realize the formatting and annotations are a lot of work, let me know if you would like some help! I'd be happy too! --RvL406 (discusión) 08:26 24 ene 2015 (UTC)
- Not to worry, I will format them all tomorrow morning. I don't mind at all! Thanks for entering our evaluation, it looks great. I will read it more closely tomorrow but it looks very thorough already RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.). And thanks Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) I see your sources are in there too.
- Yay! Okay I've added what I found so far, but we definitely don't have to use it all. Great work Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) and RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) :)--Annaqiu (discusión) 08:34 24 ene 2015 (UTC)
- Okay Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) and RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) I do believe our "Fuentes Fiables" is complete! We have 15 sources, but like we said our plan is fluid right now anyways, so it may come to be that we will remove some, or we may even add more. Do you want to keep all 15 for now? From my understanding the goal of 8-10 was somewhat of a mínimum. I think the sources we have chosen are all very strong. Feel free to edit anything you want to in that section! I believe my annotations of each source are accurate, but if I missed something vital in yours feel free to add it in!
I've read everything over and I'm very satisfied with our work. Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) I think perhaps we should keep all of our sources since we know this is going to change anyways, it shows we have done a thorough job with our research! You did a great job Jen Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) I also think the outline looks great, very organized! This too might change once we get started, so I'm not too worried about it. I think we have created a good solid base to work from. --RvL406 (discusión) 23:51 24 ene 2015 (UTC)
- We're done phase one! I added in #5 to our plan after I went back to look at Gabriel G.M's page. I wrote that we would fill out the profile box (which I think is kind of the fun part) with information such as genre, movement, language, etc. if we can find those things. Does that sound okay to you ladies? Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.)
Sounds good to me! --RvL406 (discusión) 19:00 25 ene 2015 (UTC)
Yay! Yes the profile box is a great idea and we are definitely good to go. --Annaqiu (discusión) 21:29 25 ene 2015 (UTC)
- Actually we forgot one thing. Jon would like for us to divide the work among the group members. This is a suggestion I have, but want to ask you girls: I will work on #1 (Biography section), RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) will work on #4 (premios, reconomientos etc), Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) will work on #5 (profile box), and we all work collectively together for #2 and #3 (carrera literaria and estilo) since it will be a lot of work. We can definitely still help each other out on our sections. Thoughts? --Annaqiu (discusión) 21:47 25 ene 2015 (UTC)
Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) That sounds okay to me, and I agree we can definitely help each other out! Now that the work is split up, we don't need to set deadlines correct? Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) --RvL406 (discusión) 22:00 25 ene 2015 (UTC)
RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) I'm sure we will be told whether there will be deadlines or not. But from I am gathering, I think we will be working on this all throughout the semester until he tells us to wrap it up and do our final touches. Just want to hear from Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) first and see what she thinks. Then I will add to our outline about how we will divide the group work :) --Annaqiu (discusión) 22:44 25 ene 2015 (UTC)
Hola guapas! Just a quick thought, for the research assignment should we all choose 3 of our own sources? That way there won't be any over lap! Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.)
- That sounds good to me RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.). I am going to do one book (Tompkins, Cynthia, and Foster, David, eds.), one article (Carmen Boullosa, Sarah Pollack and Cristina Peri Rossi) and one web source (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/848850/Cristina-Peri-Rossi)for a little variety. Is that okay with you ladies?
- Sounds good to me Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.). I will work on 3 articles (2 on la nave de los locos and 1 on an interview). I will put our names in red next to the ones we have chosen. RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) you can now pick your 3 much easier :) --Annaqiu (discusión) 23:04 31 ene 2015 (UTC)
That all sounds good! Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) and Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) I won't be able to work on it until Wednesday, so I will give you guys an update of what I picked around that time! At the moment I have my eye on two books and an article.
Just a quick update, I put my username by the article/books that I chose. --RvL406 (discusión) 03:56 8 feb 2015 (UTC)
Hola Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.). On our discussion page, I added a section right underneath "fuentes fiables" for us to add in our blog links. Hope that is okay with you guys :)--Annaqiu (discusión) 03:40 11 feb 2015 (UTC)
- Great idea Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) and thank you for taking caring of that! --70.70.232.112 (discusión) 04:59 11 feb 2015 (UTC)
- Alright Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.), I've added my links in for the 3 sources. I've put them in alphabetical order for now. Hasta el jueves! --Annaqiu (discusión) 05:46 12 feb 2015 (UTC) Me as well! I hope it saves. I had done it earlier and switched one of my sources but it all reverted from some frustrating reason...! RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.), Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.)
Hello RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.), Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.)! I am just playing around a bit with our sections (I was looking at G.G.M's page as an example). Feel free to edit / add / delete more but I tried to make them according to our plan so far. Let me know if I missed anything! Going to go add some information now so they are not so bare.
You guys rock
editarThis is incredibly helpfully laid out. :) --Jbmurray (discusión) 07:02 13 feb 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you Jbmurray (disc. · contr. · bloq.). I think it is fair to say we are enjoying the project and are very excited to get started on the main work of editing the article! Right ladies Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.)RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.)? Go team JAR! (p.s. I only put my initial first because RAJ just didn't have the same ring to it).
Contributions
editarYou've been making steady progress with Cristina Peri Rossi. Excellent! --Jbmurray (discusión) 20:25 10 mar 2015 (UTC)
It's Happening!!
editarHey Ladies! I am finally starting to work on the project! I just wanted your advice, for the "Premios" part of the article, should I keep it in paragraph form or should I set it up more like the "Obras" section where I write a few sentences up top and then have a list of the award winning literature and the prize it won???? What do you guys think? Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.)
More Questions
editarI just finished the Premios section and now I want to start adding my info from my sources, however... I need your organizational help! I have info on one specific work Peri Rossi did called Fantasías eroticas, now should I include this under important themes or under important works?? What do you girls think? Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.)
- It might help to decide once we read what the information is. You can always write it in the section that you feel is best and then together we can all evaluate where it should go once it is complete. From the sounds of it is would fit better under important works, but those are just my thoughts! Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.)
Style and Themes section
editarHi ladies Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.), I know we are meeting on Thursday to discuss and revise our plan, but I just wanted to give you a heads up that I changed something in the "Estilo" esction. As a separate theme it had something about "against a patriarchical society" and I also have some sources on other political themes. I thought perhaps a heading of 'Political themes" would be more general/appropriate and then we could discuss a few briefly(such as the pat.society and the one that I added) below that. Does this look/sound okay? Feel free to revert if need be! I also started a main pargraph at the top about her style, as we were not yet addressing this and this is the main heading of the section. I am sure we can add in lots about La nave de los locos here too!
full reference for the article taken from Tompkins and Foster?
editarHi. I see you've been using the entry from Notable Twentieth-Century Latin American Women: A Biographical Dictionary. But we need to know the author of that entry (Tompkins and Foster are just the book's editors) and the full page range of the relevant article. Right now we have...
- ??, ?? (2000). «Cristina Peri Rossi». En Tompkins, Cynthia; Foster, David. Notable Twentieth-Century Latin American Women: A Biographical Dictionary. Westport, CT: Greenwood. pp. 222–22?.
If you can provide the full info, that would be great. --Jbmurray (discusión) 17:57 17 mar 2015 (UTC)
- Note also that what's currently footnote 4 gives a reference to page 233 of this book, but as far as I can see that must be wrong. --Jbmurray (discusión) 17:58 17 mar 2015 (UTC)
- I see now what you mean Jbmurray (disc. · contr. · bloq.), and unfortunately that final page is not in the Google Books edition, however after some rooting around on Google I found the publication on the CV of Gema Pilar Pérez-Sánchez from the Unviersity of Miami. I will add her name and those pages on to the sources.
- The book is also available (and not checked out) from Koerner library: CT3290 .N68 2001. :) --Jbmurray (discusión) 22:55 18 mar 2015 (UTC)
- I am finished with it Jbmurray (disc. · contr. · bloq.), however I am not sure if the Castellanos group or the Naranjo group would want to check it out? They are both featured. I don't know if they are struggling for resources or not..
- I see now what you mean Jbmurray (disc. · contr. · bloq.), and unfortunately that final page is not in the Google Books edition, however after some rooting around on Google I found the publication on the CV of Gema Pilar Pérez-Sánchez from the Unviersity of Miami. I will add her name and those pages on to the sources.
Evaluation of progress/What to focus on
editarHey Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.), RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.). As we discussed at our meeting, here is what we will focus on from now until the end of the term:
- 1.) Start up new page for "la nave de los locos" (If Jon approves)
- 2.) More information on trabajos recientes
- 3.) Add "La sexualidad" into tema importantantes
- 4.) More on Influencias literarias
- 5.) Final touches to carrera literaria/estilo/biografia (think exilio & premio is good)
With only a few more weeks of classes left, let's work hard towards that finish line - Go team JAR! :) --Annaqiu (discusión) 06:50 21 mar 2015 (UTC)
- Guys, this all looks good. You are poster children for this project. :) Let me say I don't think you should start a page for La nave de los locos. That would be going above and beyond. (The book undoubtedly deserves an article, but you shouldn't have to write it.) I would add to what you have above: a) fleshing out Carerra literaria, b) writing a section with a general summary of critical reaction and importance of her work and c) rewriting the "lead" (the introductory paragraph). But this is also a good time to ask others to take a look at the article and offer their suggestions: ask Zerabat (disc. · contr. · bloq.) or Cocolacoste (disc. · contr. · bloq.), for instance. --Jbmurray (discusión) 11:16 21 mar 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back to us Jbmurray (disc. · contr. · bloq.). That sounds great. I have messaged Zerabat first to see if any help will come. If not, we Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) will try messaging Cocolacoste. :) --Annaqiu (discusión) 22:14 21 mar 2015 (UTC)
- Great. They may or may not be able to spare any time, but it's worth asking. --Jbmurray (discusión) 00:39 22 mar 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back to us Jbmurray (disc. · contr. · bloq.). That sounds great. I have messaged Zerabat first to see if any help will come. If not, we Jnag406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) will try messaging Cocolacoste. :) --Annaqiu (discusión) 22:14 21 mar 2015 (UTC)
I believe we have a good plan for our final stages here Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.) RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.). Anna, thank you for taking charge on contacting those two users for possible help. I am going to see if I can find some more info right now on Carrera Literaria. --Jnag406 (discusión) 19:40 22 mar 2015 (UTC)
Revisions for Cristina Peri Rossi
editarHey ladies RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.). So it looks like Zerabat will continue to review the article and post suggestions/advice here. So far we've signed underneath once the revisions have been made. Just wanted to see if this is working for you guys because I noticed that the discussion is starting to get very clustered. Is there a more effective way to communicate? Is it okay so far? Jbmurray (disc. · contr. · bloq.) --Annaqiu (discusión) 23:57 23 mar 2015 (UTC)
It was a good system, but you are right. It is incredibly cluttered and you end up with 15 new emails every time. RvL406 (disc. · contr. · bloq.) Jbmurray (disc. · contr. · bloq.) Annaqiu (disc. · contr. · bloq.)--Jnag406 (discusión) 02:42 24 mar 2015 (UTC)
- Another way of doing things is to
cross outthe issues that you've addressed. Would that help? --Jbmurray (discusión) 05:02 24 mar 2015 (UTC)
Let's try Jbmurray's suggestion! I find that if I am off for a day its hard to know where to start working! Jnag406 Annaqiu
How about this:
This is a suggestion you looked at and decided to implement.
This is one you didn't like so much.
Look like a plan? --Jbmurray (discusión) 05:32 24 mar 2015 (UTC)